A Question Of Lifeboats

Those of you that have been following the project will be aware, that unlike the original Titanic, the Titanic II will have enough lifeboats.

These will be modern lifeboats, with modern davits, located on a new ‘safety deck’ that the original Titanic did not have. The original Titanic’s minimal supply of lifeboats were located higher up on the boat (promenade) deck, so more difficult to launch.

Nobody denies the need for plentiful lifeboats conforming to modern maritime safety standards.  However, Some commentators have suggested that the modern lifeboats will make the Titanic II look too contemporary and ugly. (They have to be orange these days for safety reasons).

It has also been suggested that maybe they could be hidden in the hull, behind doors, retaining the profile of the original hull.

On January 31, 2020, Helge Kåre Fauskanger asked Deltamarin (the Titanic II’s designers) this question:

“If the design is still being refined, are you able to comment on the possibility of covering up the new lifeboat deck behind doors, something I understand SOLAS regulations would allow?

Very many who have reviewed the (former?) proposed design have found the new lifeboat deck a most painful eyesore which undermines the very purpose of a “TItanic replica”, since it spoils the original design. Yet I remember that this was discussed in comments on your site already years ago, and then you did indicate that covering up the lifeboats behind doors was a real possibility to be duly considered. Have there been any further conceptual developments regarding this that you are able to share?”

Deltamarin replied on February 5, 2020:

“Dear Helge, This is one topic among the very many others we have been studying. Unfortunately we are at the moment not yet able to release any details”.

So the news is, we just don’t know. However hidden lifeboats would certainly make this amazing vessel look more authentic.

Q: what do you think about the Titanic II’s modern lifeboats?

Malcolm


6 thoughts on “A Question Of Lifeboats

  1. Hi Mr. Malcolm,

    Love your vigilance in keeping up with Titanic II. When the media is no help, I know that in turning to you, I can at least find something, and I’ve been proven right again with the COVID-19 article.

    The only reason I’m not commenting on that article is because my question concerns the lifeboats. No, I’m not worried about their quantity or reliability: I’m actually more worried about how they make the ship look externally. This is less because I think they’ll ruin T2’s external appearance, and more because I’m concerned with how they’ll handle the North Atlantic. As you and I both know, that’s a rough ocean, which is why lifeboats have been always placed higher up on a ship: QM2 is of course a perfect example. With the boats being that close to the waterline, I don’t know how safe they might be should the ship enter a storm or even a rogue wave, and if something were to happen in choppy waters, how safe would people be stepping into them when they’re that close to the water?

    What I’d like to know is your opinion on this, and if you’ve ever asked Deltamarin about it, and if not, would you think about it? Also on a side note, why did they shorten the ship’s draft? Granted it was just a little bit, but I’m not too sure how that is supposed to help with stability.

    Thanks a bunch and sorry for the essay: I’m working on that. 🙂

    Sincerely,
    Kevin

    1. Hi Kevin, some very good questions. I do wonder how much of a ‘real’ Ocean Liner Titanic II will be. The QM2 has the size, stability and speed which is far superior to all the classic Ocean Liners. Like you said, her lifeboats are much higher for protection. I did read that QM2 is TWICE as stable as the QE2. The original builders of Ocean Liners did not have computer simulation and tanks to fully test stability. For example the original Queen Mary was known to list at 45 degrees in a storm – that’s half way to falling over and would have felt terrible if you were on-board. I assume the Titanic II’s amended draft/width is to do with stability and having pods. As for lifeboats, Deltamarin were investigating doors to hide/protect the lifeboats, however these may no comply with current marine safety regulations. (Did you know that when Oasis crossed the pond from the European shipyard and was delivered to Miami, she was slowed by a storm and two lifeboats were badly damaged by waves.) Deltmarin do not give too much information away. Palmer gives none! Thanks for your feedback, Feel free to comment again. Malcolm

      1. Kevin, when I say Titanic II may not be a ‘real’ Ocean Liner, I mean: like Cunard’s current queen Vic and Lizzy. They are just cruise ships with Ocean Liner décor and livery. They rarely attempt a winter crossing, straight across the pond like the QM2 does regularly. Mind you Deltmarin said the titanic II will be a real Ocean Liner – just a small one by modern standards, 30% the size of QM2.

        If you ever get the chance to go on the QM2, do it! There is a ship review on my mail cruise blog (link at the top of the Titanic Blog page).

        Regards,

  2. Hi Malcolm,

    Yeah that makes sense. If they don’t change the design much from what we’ve originally seen, if at all, then the doors (assuming they go through with them) make absolute sense, and I guess it could substitute well for the boats being closer to the water than they really should. And regarding whether or not T2 will be a “real” liner, I get that too. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised. That said, I really hope she’s as real as they come. And it only makes sense if she’s going to be crossing the Atlantic as frequently as Palmer says.

    Thanks a lot for getting back to me

    Yours,
    Kevin

    1. Edit: No I didn’t know that about the Oasis!

      Well you know what they say: the bigger they are, the harder they fall. And not being built to take on the full force of the ocean, I’d say that phrase was VERY true. Glad she’s still around though. 🙂

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